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Re: Storm Carl

Rougie — Wed, 14 May 2014 22:32:33 +0100

Good to hear from you Marilyn.

Book 3 continues the trend of Book 2 with a tendency of lower base stats and more abilities. I do like this hero, but in a hero vs hero fight I think he would struggle against my Cavalier from LoS:
http://www.destiny-quest.com/forums/post-your-hero/show/2273#post2273

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Re: Storm Carl

Padok — Wed, 14 May 2014 19:42:56 +0100

Rougie, this hero look so strong. I will try to learn some tactics when look him abilities.

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Re: Storm Carl

Polythemus — Fri, 09 May 2014 12:34:20 +0100

I'm glad I was right. Looking fwd to playing more this weekend!

Thank you for a great series of books.

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Re: Storm Carl

Da Boss — Fri, 09 May 2014 08:18:40 +0100

@ Rougie
The storm carl is a very physical career and therefore suited two combat abilities. The reaver also has two combat abilities. As you rightly point out, they do not benefit from your brawn, therefore they are balanced. However, both abilities ignore armour. Hurricane rush is an excellent 'finisher' ability. If you have multiple opponents on low health (particularly in combats where opponents are being summoned or spawned), then hurricane rush is a good means of picking off a load of weak opponents - potentially also triggering a death move. Not every combat ability should necessarily be about hitting huge numbers. Wave is similar; an ability that gives you control over the weaker/damaged opponents you may need to pick off.

@Polythemus
Yes, you are correct in your assumption. Hurricane rush is a bit of an odd one in this context, but you roll the dice separately so if you were to use critical strike, the critical strike would apply to one pair of dice as they are the only ones in play at that time.

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Re: Storm Carl

Polythemus — Thu, 08 May 2014 22:34:41 +0100

I have a quick question about the storm carl. If you play hurricane rush and use critical strike can you turn every hit into a six result or would the critical only apply to one set of dice because you roll separately for each one? This is hypothetical as I don’t have critical strike but was just curious. I would assume the sixes could only occur for one hit (so changing two dice to sixes). Otherwise could be a little OP.

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Re: Storm Carl

Rougie — Thu, 08 May 2014 19:56:03 +0100

Not all damage die combat abilities apply instead of calculating a damage score. Backstab, for example, doesn’t and a thief in HoF was my last character, so that might be why I assumed they could just be played. Although looking back at the Backstab glossary I see that explicitly states you still can roll for damage.

It seems quite unusual to have a career with two combat abilities that replace rolling for a damage score. That’s two rounds where you are not benefiting from the brawn you have accumulated. Particularly if you are reducing Spin Shots’ power I would advocate making Hurricane Rush a combat ability triggered by playing a speed ability (so a bit like backstab) and independent of whether you win the round. After all, you do take damage that will activate any passives your opponents have etc. I think that would fit with the theme of the career. But of course you Da Boss!

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Re: Storm Carl

Da Boss — Thu, 08 May 2014 10:11:56 +0100

Ah ok, that explains a lot! Perhaps I need to be more consistent in my ability descriptions. Yes, both spin shot and hurricane rush, like all damage die combat abilities, replace rolling for a damage score. You can't do both.

I'll make that amend to the online glossary - and add to the errata - just to clarify for other readers. Thanks.

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Re: Storm Carl

Rougie — Thu, 08 May 2014 06:51:40 +0100

No, it wasn't. I think I understand now with the description on combat abilities at the start of the book. So I think both Hurricane Rush and Spin Shot's descriptions should begin by saying "Instead of rolling for a damage score...."

I thought you could use the ability and roll for damage (which explains why I thought the Storm Carl was so amazing), because the descriptions of the abilities weren't explicit unlike, for instance, stampede and skewer.

*Edited for typos*

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Re: Storm Carl

Da Boss — Wed, 07 May 2014 19:54:16 +0100

Critical strike, when played, turns all damage die into [6] results. So if you won the round, and used spin shot as your combat ability you could (under the new proposed rules) turn the two die results into [6] and [6] and then add on your damage bonuses for the abilities.

Is that what you meant?

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Re: Storm Carl

Rougie — Wed, 07 May 2014 19:49:35 +0100

That is probably better and would also means Bloody Maiden adds +4 rather than +12 if you had a (temporary) speed advantage of +4.

Quick question on critical strike - assuming you win the round when you are playing Spin Shot, should critical strike apply to the die you roll for damage? I assumed not, as applying it to one form of attack but it could be read to apply to all damage dice in a combat round.

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Re: Storm Carl

Da Boss — Wed, 07 May 2014 15:48:30 +0100

I'm considering the following as an update:

Spin shot (co): This ability inflicts 2 damage dice to your opponent, ignoring armour – plus 3 extra damage for every speed point difference you have over your opponent in this round. You can only use this ability once per combat.

It feels like a good compromise. You still get the 2 damage dice base damage, ignoring armour, and then benefit from the speed boost of abilities such as Frenzy. This would mean, if critical strike was used, it could only affect the initial 2 damage dice.

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Re: Storm Carl

Da Boss — Wed, 07 May 2014 08:26:04 +0100

Great hero and thanks for the feedback!

Yes, perhaps a Blizzard-style nerf of spin shot might be in order. Probably removing the 'ignore armour' affix and/or reducing the base damage from 2 dice to 1 die. Something I'll think about - as I can see, when combined with critical strike and frenzy, it becomes quite devastating! ;)

Cool build!

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Storm Carl

Rougie — Tue, 06 May 2014 21:03:36 +0100

So just completed and here is my warrior hero:

Name: Arran
Titles: Serpent Slayer, The Everliving
Path: Warrior
Career: Storm Carl (Hurricane Rush, Spin Shot)
Stats: 15 speed, 22 brawn, 3 magic, 3 armour, 55 health,

Head: Tomb Life +2 speed +2 armour, greater heal
Cloak: Aggressor's Mantle +2 speed +2 brawn +1 armour (Terra scales), barbs
Gloves: Werewood Claws +1 speed +2 brawn, gouge
Chest: Captain's Coat +2 speed +3 brawn (Drone Razors), overpower
Feet: Sable's Shadows +2 speed +2 brawn, rebound
Main hand: Tumult (axe) +2 speed +3 brawn (drake thorn), Frenzy (+curse, +charm)
Left hand: Warped Edge +2 speed +4 brawn, charm (+ice edge, +blind)
Talisman: Monstrous Beast +1 speed +5 health, bleed
Necklace: Glacial Orbit +1 speed +2 brawn, piercing
Ring: Aldo's Ruin +2 br (bonus from blue quest Act 1) +1 magic, deceive (+heal, +frost burn)
Ring: Betrayer's Kiss +2 brawn +2 magic, critical strike

Death Moves: upperhand, recuperation, shadow thorns,
Other: spectral claws, bloody maiden, might of stone, intimidate, ice slick

I think the Storm Carl career might be a bit overpowered. It gives you two combat abilities that can be used in addition to winning a round and rolling for damage. Hurricane Rush is great for multiple opponents to inflict passives such as bleed/gouge. But it is spin shot that it is truly amazing. When combined with a speed boost (e.g. frenzy) I was rolling 5, 6 or even 7 dice at a time. I say rolling, as I actually used critical strike to make it inflict 30, 36 or 42 points of damage. I defeated one supposedly tough opponent, with 80 health, in just two combat rounds. And bloody maiden makes it even more powerful.

This made the book quite easy from a play perspective. Early combats and ones where you couldn't use abilities were the toughest.

As people will see from my equipment, I took the “darker” path (Da Boss’s words) to activate the forge. I would say I generally took the path of “greater good” or, as Skoll would put it, the many rather than the few, e.g. I also acted to stop the dissemination of chemical warfare.

Trying rogue next.

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