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Re: Looking for a good assassin combination

Vandervecken — Sat, 30 Jun 2012 20:55:39 +0100

I finished the game, and have reached a few conclusions:

Firstly, the critical strike-deep wound combination sucks.
When you have a brawn of 25-ish, and no armor, the abilities that heal or cause damage are actually pretty bad.
Damage abilities tend not to scale well, so the most important thing is winning vs losing a combat round.

The best abilities are those that turn a lost combat round into a won combat round, followed by those abilities that help you avoid damage. Also, the venom/disease/assassin combo just wears the enemy down while you're dodging attacks.

To that end, I found the following items indispensible:
Crown of Command (head) +5 Brawn, +5 Magic, command (turn a lost combat round into a won combat round)
Demon's Heart (talisman) +1 Speed, trickster (swap one of your dice with won of theirs, turning a lost combat round into a won combat round)
Stolen Hope (necklace +1 Brawn, +1 Magic, deceive (same as trickster)

Combine that with the dagger Spite (venom) and Mortician's Scalpel (disease), you can do a lot of damage.

For damage prevention I have sidestep, evade and vanish.
I have a couple of items still from my time as a pickpocket:
Marsh Stalkers with sidestep
Kaggadour's Cloak with piercing.

I also decided to pass on the Nightcrawler set. Firstly, as I said above, damage abilities don't scale well (except piercing), and secondly, youc an't get that and the diamond for the crown of command.

I did not end up using the poison boost talisman because it simply isn't better than the trickster ability.

As for the bleed ring, I found a leech ring, but I never get hit so it doesn't matter.

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Re: Looking for a good assassin combination

Tatties — Thu, 28 Jun 2012 15:11:41 +0100

Yes, you're probably right. Frustrating as I'm a bit of a gold hoarder and my last character was a pickpocket....

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Re: Looking for a good assassin combination

Rithe — Thu, 28 Jun 2012 13:35:06 +0100

You played through The Betrayed, Tatties? I would say from the end that there is no reason (other than playing around with co-op battles) to save the money.

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Re: Looking for a good assassin combination

Tatties — Thu, 28 Jun 2012 11:26:21 +0100

You missed off the bonus vendor and quest Rinzler. Waldo has a chest piece and gloves but they're expensive. There is also a couple of chest and glove items in the betrayed quest. That's end game so not really going to make a difference to fighting through Act 3.

On the gold front I wonder is there a reason to keep gold beyond Legion of Shadow for this character? I wonder if we'll get to buy potions for the co-op battles or be able to swap them between characters?

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Re: Looking for a good assassin combination

Rinzler — Wed, 27 Jun 2012 21:51:27 +0100

Finger of fire is only available in Act 2. The chest and gloves alternatives from what I have seen are:

Titan plate (1 speed 2 armour Fearless)
Stalkers jerkin (2 speed 3 armour Evade)
Shadow bindings (2 speed 3 brawn Evade)

Bestial gloves (2 speed 2 brawn Adrenaline)
Razor fists (1 brawn 3 armour Rake)
Bracelet of fury (1 speed 4 brawn Adrenaline)
Bone bracers (1 speed 2 brawn Bleed)

I'm sure I missed some. Think this might sell you on keeping gutripper.

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Re: Looking for a good assassin combination

Perceval — Tue, 26 Jun 2012 20:29:21 +0100

I see a lot of rogues sticking with gutripper. Its a good ability and probably worth the drop in brawn and loss of an extra ability. I think best upgrade for chest is shadowing bindings...? 2 speed 3 brawn and evade. Bracelet of fury is a good gloves item giving adrenaline and a +4 brawn. If you have the nightwalker set I would keep it.

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Re: Looking for a good assassin combination

Stabby — Tue, 26 Jun 2012 18:49:20 +0100

I've completed the game as an assassin and also done plenty of "theory" playing with lots of builds. :o)

If you can get it I'd add sear if you are able (finger of fire) to get the extra damage points off critical strike.

You can deep wound from a dagger at the end of WINTER's HILL. Its main hand so will go well with a weapon with venom in the off hand. Get spite from the necro in THE WARNING. You can upgrade it with the fang of vengos by helping Avian Dale in THE BETRAYED. There are gloves with critical strike from the act3 vendor if you have 900g.

Brawlers shiv in main hand is how I went in act 3. I kept it for the stats but I think the deep wound dagger tenacity and spite are better combo. Get the bleed ring from WAKING THE DEAD and the poison boost talisman from AGAINST ALL ODDS.

Stabby

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Looking for a good assassin combination

Vandervecken — Mon, 25 Jun 2012 20:16:24 +0100

Hi guys,
I'm running an assassin through Act 3, and I'm trying to find a good way to mix together the following combo:
venom + main hand dagger + critical strike/gut-ripper + piercing + deep would.
I have a dagger with venom, another with critical strike, and the nightwalker set so I have gut-ripper too. I also have a cloak with piercing. My problem is finding a deep wound. Are there secondary weapons with deep wound, or ways to get critical strike, deep wound, or venom on an item that isn't a weapon?
I'm not so happy with gut-ripper as I think in the late game, I can do a lot better than the Nightwalker set for chest and gloves.

Thoughts? Advice?

Cheers,
Vandervecken

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